Walter Bahr


Walter Bahr is one of those guys who is good at every sport he tries - whether it be soccer, football, basketball, racquetball, or golf, Walter knows how to put up a good fight.

However, it’s been soccer that has brought him the most professional acclaim and the most enjoyable personal memories to boot. Still living in Pennsylvania today, Walter Bahr signed up as an amateur with the Philadelphia Nationals when he was only 15 years old. He helped the Nationals to win four American Soccer League titles and was a member of nearly all of the All-Star teams of his era. He also had 19 caps for the U.S. National Team, (which back then played much less frequently than today with all of the friendlies, qualifiers, and regional tournaments on the present schedule). Walter took the time to talk with U.S. Soccer Players about his perspective on the game of soccer and the players dominating the game today, and talked about some of his best memories, which weren’t always the most “expected” of good times …

So, where are you living now? What do you do with your time nowadays?
I’m in Pennsylvania. I live a couple of miles from Penn State. I coached and taught there for many years. I’ve been retired almost 20 years now. These days, I play golf in the nice weather and racquetball in the cold weather. We have a group of us that meet and play, and get together for the day and tell the same lies (laughs). It’s a nice life out here. We’re out in the country. I have an old house that was built in 1920. My wife and I are active in the community. One of my sons, Chris, lives with his wife and two kids in the area. My older son just retired, and he lives down in Virginia. My other son is in Mount Lebanon, Pennsylvania, and my daughter is in the Philadelphia area. Everyone is in a 200-mile radius, which is nice. Next week we’re all going to meet in Cape May, New Jersey.

Back in your playing days, could you ever have imagined you’d one day be inducted into the Soccer Hall of Fame? Can you describe what that induction day was like?
Well, we were taken in as a team, in 1976. The Hall was in Philly, then, and it was the same summer obviously as all of the big bicentennial celebrations. Our whole team was taken in at that time in a team induction. The Hall did that once before with the 1930 team, although when they took them in, most of them were already gone. About half a dozen of us made the ceremony. It was certainly an honor. But what I remember from the day is something else altogether. The president of the federation, Walt Geisler, the President of the Federation at the time, was at the convention in Philadelphia, presenting all of us, and he took a seizure during the presentation,. They carried him off the stage, and a few hours later, Walter had passed away. The ironic part was that Bill Jeffrey, our old coach, was giving a speech up in New York in the early 1960s, and the same thing happened to him, he fell on the stage and later died. At two conventions, two key people, the coach and the GM, both giving speeches, both had seizures and heart attacks. So, at the convention in ‘76, as I was captain, I took over for Walter and introduced the rest of the team. I remember more of that event than the honor that went along with it.

How was the transition from playing to coaching? What did you learn about the game of soccer through coaching?
My coaching career goes back to the 1940’s and 50’s. I was a freshman coach at Swarthmore College, and I coached in high schools for 20 years. While I was in Philly, I took the Temple job and coached there part-time for three years, and then put in 15 years at Penn State. I had 40 years coaching at the school level. I coached basketball, baseball, and tennis, but soccer was the main sport. It’s a natural progression, from playing to coaching. As a player, you think you know everything. When you start coaching, you realize that it’s not so much the skills of the game or the strategy, it’s handling of people and getting them in the right positions, gaining team camaraderie. There’s no clear way. Each team is different. You don’t always win when you have your best players, and you don’t always lose when you think you don’t have your best players. It takes a while for the chemistry to show itself. You can’t make prejudgments. It takes time to realize what they can and cannot do. I really think it’s a learning process. Most players who have played and get into coaching, they realize this very quickly. All sports are simple, really, or at least they’re easy to learn, but difficult to master. Everyone has their own personalities. The coaching “schools” are good to a point, but what works for one coach doesn’t work for another. If you can coach one sport, you can coach another. It’s a matter of style. The better coaches understand players.

I think you learn from your own coaches. You try to pick out what works, and eliminate what doesn’t. The important thing is developing your own personality. Your handling of the team is important. It’s something that is passed on from player to player. Players learn to understand what the coach wants. Your reputation is important as a consistent handling of players. It takes time to build up your reputation as a coach, just as it does when you’re a player. There’s no clear-cut answer. There’s good players who are bad coaches, and vice versa. Over a period of time, the guy who doesn’t necessarily win all of the time, but who turns out a team that plays well and conducts itself well is a good coach. Sometimes your best coaching is with a losing team.

How would you compare players of today with players of your era?
Well, certainly the numbers have increased. In all sports it can be very dangerous to compare the eras of players, to see if we’re getting better, if we’re the same, or if we’re worse. Good players in my day were good players. Good players today are good players. I can’t compare players today to players of the 1930s. Players today can’t make the same judgments. You cant compare it. It’s a guessing game. I know they’re bigger, stronger, and faster. Skill-wise, they’re probably better, but I’m not certain. You’re selling people short by saying that players weren’t good athletes. There were different conditions. A good player that played 50 years ago would be a good player today, a poor player, same thing. The difference is, and this is in all sports, is that they all look like football players—bigger, stronger, so forth. It’s an exercise in futility to compare players of different eras. The big question used to be was if Jack Dempsey fought Joe Lewis, who would win? Well, they’ll never get together, so it’s an impossible situation. Everything has improved in all of the sports, from field conditions to coaching. The best players still play for the highest-level teams. Obviously, things get better. Some of the sports going today have become more of a business then a sport. It’s not as fun lifting weights, and doing all these things to improve body strength. Back then, you did enough on the field and at practice. You weren’t spending 12 months a year on body conditioning. Baseball players had four months off. Today, everyone is on a 12-month training program. To me, that takes the fun out of it. It should be fun. It’s just how it is now. There’s so much pressure and money involved. You can’t compare the two. You can only talk about eras.

What are your favorite soccer memories?
Well, playing, coaching, watching my own kids play … it becomes one big collection of memories. I don’t know that I have a favorite thing. Everyone talks about the 1950 Cup. I played professionally for 25 years. I played a lot of games. Everyone remembers the Cup game, it’s gotten more publicity than any other game I played in, but I played in a lot of games. I remember my first game, in which I played for a youth championship, and we played extra periods for the championships. I can name my team when I was 11 or 12 years old. I can remember trying out for my high school team. I was 15 when I was signed by a professional team. There was not much money involved, but it was still a professional league. The 1950 game has received the most notoriety, and people ask me about it, and its become a bigger thing in recent years. But certainly, teams that I coached, I had one that won the city championships in Philly, and these are great memories. I coached at Temple and we won the league one year. At Penn State we played in the NCAA championship tournament nearly every year. It does a disservice to pick one memory. They were all good teams. Some teams won more than others. The best team I had at Penn State didn’t get invited to the NCAA’s because we lost a couple of games early, but I thought it was the best playing team we had. The Hall of fame was an honor, as was being selected to the Pennsylvania Hall of Fame and the Philly Old Timers group. They’re all honors and nice to see, but there are plenty of guys more deserving who didn’t get in. That’s all.

- July 2004 -

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